“Motor scooters, motorcycles, race cars. After running a decade-high eight events in 1989, “the Greek” ran all 19 events in 1990 and finished just 36 points out of the top 10. Man, I wrote a whole column about that car back in 2012. I think I've heard him say all of them. Alton Dragstrip. The Greek would run 5 times in 2017. Karamesines would continue his partial schedule in 2019, making his first appearance at the 50th Annual Gatornationals. By the late 50s, Karamesines was a regular on the AHRA (American Hot Rod Association) circuit. While NHRA has it listed as 1931, other sources, including The Drag Racing Hall of Fame, say he was born in 1928. People did that to people’s names back then. 1929? Garlits readily admits it and also to the fact that when he put “the Greek’s” car into a display in his museum, that he put his own Swamp Rat VIII side by side with it but a few inches ahead “just so I can say I won one race against him.”. He'd rather quit than wear one. He just works on this stuff. The Sept. 10, 1960 issue of Drag News reported that after all of the handwringing over the Fosdick timers at Alton, track management there was able to borrow the Chrondek clocks from Kansas City Int’l Raceway and was able to run them in parallel with the Fosdicks at the track’s Midwest Drag Classic event. I think I look pretty damn good in it. Because the basic combination was there, even without Maynard’s renowned ability to read the track, Karamesines went on to win a lot of match races and set track records everywhere. The pairing gained notoriety at the Le Grandnational in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. “I tried to run it but didn’t know what I was doing. The following year, Karamesines would set what many feel is the first 200 MPH run at the Alton Dragstrip in Alton, Illinois. “I’d winter in Los Angeles and Sid Waterman had a Christmas party or a New Year’s party at his shop on Gardena Blvd. I saw him at Cordova with that short car and the front wheels came up at the eighth-mile and he drove right through the finish line with the wheels in the air. He quit his job at the City of Chicago Water Dept. According to DragList.com, the twin’s best speed in 1962 was 183.00 at Oswego Dragway, so they had two pretty good running cars. I'm not the reason he kept racing. In 1965, Karamesines would make his first career final round at Bristol. 29. In 2006, Karamesines would be inducted into the International Motorsports Hall of Fame. of the meet at 7.81 and the questionable 214-mph speed but used up two engines in the process and was unable to back up the 214. ... with a 204.54-mph pass in April 1960 at Alton Dragway in Illinois. In Alton, because their conversion charts (and probably everyone else’s) stopped well short of 200 mph, the announcers had to drag out their slide rules (or abacus or whatever) to calculate the speed by hand and came up with 204.54. You can’t do it right with volunteers like we used to. I’ll have to refresh his memory.”. Ivo didn't back his 200 up. Just recently, Don Schumacher and his talented tuner, Todd Okuhara, got him into that canopy dragster with a good combination, and Bobby and Dom Lagana have both offered their expertise. In October at Gateway, Karamesines and team would return, qualifying 14th. “Racing that long and doing it as well and he and being as well-thought-of as he is. After some tinkering, he got the engine running properly. At the Norwalk race in 2019, I saw “the Greek’s” car in Jim Head’s pit area, so I stopped in to see what was up with that. After licensing with an early shutoff 3.99 in October, daughter Kristin, who was just 8 when he passed, will now continue the family legacy in her grandpa's car and will wear her dad's number, 725, on her car when she debuts at the 2021 Gatornationals. "The Greek" won round two with an 8.06 after Weekly red-lighted. Hirata also was injured but survived. After his return from Germany, Karamesines decided to go racing as a career. I get to go to Chris Karamesines' house. "Driving those [dirt cars] would help you really develop a seat-of-the-pants feel," he explained. Believe it or not, there’s no authoritative and complete list of all Purple Heart winners and even though the site PurpleHeart.com does not list him among the 78,197 names in their database, “the Greek” has so many accomplishments to his credit that he doesn’t need to brag about — enough of his friends say they have and brag for him — so I’m going with yes. “The fans, they loved him. At the 2016 Charlotte 4-wide nationals, Karamesines' granddaughter, Krista Baldwin, was entered alongside her grandpa running her Alcohol Dragster. He was quoted in 1967 as saying, “My chief goal in life is to give the spectators a good show.”. I was Don Garlic [and sometimes even Don Garbage] but we both raced at the 1959 AHRA Nationals and he beat us in the final, so I knew he was for real. Karamesines, who was already experiencing a fair bit of success that summer by himself, met Maynard met at the ATAA World Series of Drag Racing in Cordova, Ill., the weekend before Labor Day 1957. Is that 204.54 number exactly accurate? “He’s the classiest guy I ever met in racing. “Here I was, this snotty-nosed kid watching him race and a few years later you’re racing the guy. We rode together in the crew cab and talked a lot. Like Karamesines (and practically every hot rodder back then), he was a member of a car club (the Lords, out of Tucson). Although Connie Kalitta will beg to differ, yes. You could pass a hat through the pits and get enough money to buy him 10 HANS devices. Despite smoking the tires, Karamesines would take down Amato, and go on to face Gary Ormsby in the finals. Later that year at Seattle's Seafair Nationals, Karamesines would defeat 3 time top fuel champion Shirley Muldowney in round one, Frank Hawley, owner of the Hawley School of Drag Racing in Florida, in round two, and Frank Bradley in round 3, after mechanical issues kept Bradley kept him from making it to the line. Are we using Chrondeks or Fosdicks to keep track? A run by Art Malone that registered 173.07 mph on the Chrondeks came up as 180.00 on the Fosdicks (+6.93 mph) and where the Chrondeks clocked the Speed Sport roadster at 160.71, the Fosdicks gave it a 163.63 (+2.92 mph). It was that run that started a career that still maintains today as Karamesines can be found racing top fuel dragsters in 2020, albeit not with the success he had in 1990. For full functionality of this site it is necessary to enable JavaScript. 2003 would see Karamesines reduce his schedule, this time only attending nine events, qualifying for three. Here chassis builder Rod Stuckey (center) joins Bobby and Chris for a pre-race photo. Jack Beckman? One of the earliest ChiZler models was a dual engine dragster, consisting of two engines stuck together to create one. Chicago driver has ties to Alton, Illinois and drag racing’s first-ever 200-mph run In an era when a 200-mile-per-hour top speed on a quarter-mile drag strip was thought by many to be unattainable, Karamesines eclipsed that elusive mark in April, 1960 at the now-defunct Alton Dragway in Alton, Illinois. “I wish him a happy birthday every Nov.11. CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link), Karamesines at Charlotte in September 2011, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Karamesines&oldid=1019073881, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 21 April 2021, at 11:18. “I ran OK so I usually was a Gunner’s Mate, not prestigious but not Cabin Boy. Although the parts weren’t hewn from gold (naturally), they were gold-plated and estimates of the amount ranged from 22 to 44 ounces, the crash nonetheless launched an after-hours scavenger hunt for pieces. By 1999 though, Karamesines was back behind the wheel, still with limited success though. "He took me downtown to Greektown one year for my birthday and bought me dinner. While unofficial according to the NHRA, many consider it the first 200 MPH run. Before the 2018 season, Karamesines had to have his hip replaced, and would miss the opening of the season. In 2015, Don Schumacher Racing provided him with one of its previously run canopied dragsters to keep the legend rolling. “You get five guys together and it doesn’t take much beer to come up with stuff like that. Glad you (I) asked. "I started a book several years ago because people kept saying we should," she said, "but every article I see about him goes through his history year by year and seems to be the same [until she sees this one!] According to someone very (very!) “I was recommended to ‘the Greek’ by a friend and already had a history of living in Chicago, so I was looking forward to going back there,” he remembers. That was his pattern for the 1980s. Even 'the Greek' changes his own story from telling to telling. Following this race, Don Shumacher would present The Greek with a gift, a canopy enclosed cockpit for his dragster. He didn't drive again in national event competition in 1999 when NHRA came to Chicago and "the Greek," of course, couldn't pass up that opportunity. He did. After an all-out 1990 campaign, Karamesines ran just two events per year (Gainesville and Indy) from 1991-93 and DNQ’d at all six (though he did get into the '93 Indy field as an alternate but lost in round one). It would have been a really good thing if he’d lived longer.”. “We had heard there was a guy in Chicago named ‘Chris Kerosene’ and that's all I’d heard. 06. This was a bad idea. “I ran some 200s [including 200.44 in Detroit the weekend previous] before I ran the 200 at Island, which had Chrondek timers and the NHRA had a point meet going on so that means the record books were open,” Garlits explained. "He just loves drag racing and I'm just the exact same way; we just love to race our [stuff], and that's why I think we get along so well," Head explained. The “king of cool” called “the Greek” cool, too. One of the earliest ChiZler models was a dual engine dragster, consisting of two engines stuck together to create one. After winning his first round race, he would be paired with young up and comer Lori Johns. They got married a couple of years later.”. He’d come over and give me some pointers, and we decided to go together. With a surname like that and a middle name like Socrates, are you kidding me? “The "Greek" didn’t drive a Funny Car — and then only sparingly — until 1971 with this Romeo Palamedes-built Mustang, which also housed his first 426 Hemi. "To the best of his knowledge ...". More like museums. It states that “the Greek” was in the Top Fuel final at the 1965 Springnationals in Bristol, Tenn. Not true. 1960. Much like Don Garlitshad his series of "Swamp Rat" dragsters, Karamesines had his own name, ChiZler. Nicoll and Cook were always in trouble with him for doing things like breaking into the laundry room at the hotel, stealing all of the towels, and handing them out in the pits.". “You also have to have a significant payroll and some full-time guys. “The Greek” returned to drive the car at the March Meet. According to Bob Frey’s immaculate career stats, “the Greek” was a first-round no-show at that race. 2013 at Brainerd saw Karamesines take down number 1 qualifier Tony Schumacher. Then, in what has to be one of the weirder sentences in any drag racing publication but perhaps included to allay any fears that the 204 was wind-aided in any way: “Looking across the Alton Dragway, the smoke was rising almost straight up at the boiler house of the Alton State Hospital, showing the wind velocity to be practically nil.”. On April 4, 1960, Karamesines recorded the world’s first unofficial 200-mph quarter-mile pass at Alton, Illinois. “He is such a personable guy,” said Head. We’re getting older now, so we might do that a few times a year.”. Prior to the time of Karamesines's remarkable run at Alton Dragway in Illinois the Windy City native had impressed West Coast fans with his showmanship, competitive performances and, most importantly, his unmatched personality. With the match race scene drying up, he competed in 39 of the 132 NHRA events in the 1980s but won just three rounds and DNQ’d 14 times, so clearly not his best decade. He was always a hard worker. Nope, turns out he was putting one of his Funny Cars into “the Greek’s” dragster. The following Monday, his granddaughter Krista would complete her top fuel licensing run in her grandfather's dragster. Although Maynard was known to tinker with the exotic and explosive add-on, Karamesines’ recollection is that he was not running hydrazine at Alton. You just want to win, so you do anything to get from one end to another, even if that meant running off the track and back on or driving through wheelstands and recapturing them without destroying the car.”, That kind of experience helped on dragstrips of all quality, from national event-level tracks to what historian Bret Kepner used to call “big four” tracks: “Short, dark, narrow, and slippery.”, “We used to go to 50-100 races a year, sometimes racing twice a week,” said. Very classy; I never saw him dirty or greasy.”. “Well, he came up to the line and let loose on a ‘banzai pass,’ losing the blower belt right before the finish line, but still clocking an 8.03. Karamesines would beat Johns, advancing him to the semi-finals, where he would face Joe Amato. The SoCal Top Fuel favorite, as likely to be seen driving his dust-settling water truck around the Pomona track as much as his dragster on it, had fallen for “the Greek’s” daughter, Paula, which led to nuptials, and when “the Greek” decided he might be ready to step aside, Baldwin became the natural choice. Even his helmet was gold-plated.”. The adjective most commonly associated with him — “legendary — doesn’t even begin to cut it. He ran the car in the A/Street Roadster class and set track records of 12.21 and 122 mph on pump gas. “We were all on the AHRA circuit and hung out and traveled together,” he recalled. “After 70 years of going down the highway, I want to spend time doing different things with Sandy,” he said. 05. “The Rodfather,” Luigi Novelli (right), who turned 78 last Sunday, is probably the new “old guy.” Karamesines’ fellow Illini Top Fuel pilot (Crete, Ill.) ran five races last year. 2010 would see him record a career best speed. ), 50 years, 10 manufacturers, 84 body styles: A guide to Pro Stock diversity, Yuichi Oyama. By the late 1970s and early 80s, the rise in costs to operate a competitive drag racing team were beginning to show, affecting smaller teams like Karamesines'. 30) in 2001 who hadn’t won an NHRA event. For a guy racing out of his own pocket, he impressed us all. One highlight for the Greek came at the 2002 Gatornationals during final round qualifying. These plans, however, quickly changed following the NHRA's season suspension due to the Covid-19 outbreak. Today, these cars are complicated to the max and he can't keep up with the cars today and, quite frankly, many old-timers can't. Of course, Chris had a huge love for boats, so it all made a lot of sense and the announcers loved it. According to Lions track reporter Gudahl, Karamesines also was the first non-West Coaster to win a match race at Lions Dragstrip, defeating Don Prudhomme with a wild, crossed-up wheelstanding run in 1964. Chris Karamesines is a puzzle in flesh and blood, and I suspect he's proud of it. He was never a phenomenal leaver, but during the blowover period if he did a wheelstand he would drive it so well; he had a really good feel. As much as a lot of people like to think this is the archetypal photo to describe “the Greek’s” mad driving skills, I’m told that this is actually hired gun Cliff Zink behind the wheel during this 1970 moonshot in Karamesines’ car. This is the car in which he made his first trips down a dragstrip. In these days of billet Fuel Hemis, the engine in Swamp Rat VI is jaw-slackening to behold. Boy, almost. Not that “the Greek” wasn’t into hot rodding, too. The Registered Agent on file for this company is Richard E Johnson and is located at 9901 S Western Ave Ste 202, Chicago, IL 60643. Staying with him, that was like staying at Graceland or something. The “Greek Fleet” (of which, Karamesines had awarded himself the title of “Captain”) was comprised mostly of (as shown above, from left) Bob Creitz, John Wiebe, Don Cook, and Jim Nicoll, but also included a few others from time to time, but this quintet was the core. Drag racing's legendary "Greek," Chris Karamesines, ended his driving career at the close of the 2020 season at age 89. “The Greek” defeated Canadian Hector Pickering in round one, 5.26 to 5.53, then beat Winternationals champ Lori Johns, 5.11 to 5.21, and, in the semifinals, points leader Joe Amato, to earn a final-round date with reigning world champ Gary Ormsby and the Castrol GTX dragster. What no one will ever dispute is what the man we call “the Greek” has meant to our sport. He loves racing and it’s the friendships that really keep him going.”. It was never my intention to drive a dragster recklessly or just try to thrill people. Alton Dragstrip. Karamesines was a long way from the halcyon days of 1960 at Alton, Illinois where he and crew chief Don Maynard supposedly made drag racing’s first 200mph run. Most oldsters will tell you he's a drag-racing legend, but some young pups … (#3) The Swamp Rat’s 200-Mph 392 Hemi: Chris Karamesines clocked at 204.54 mph at Alton, Illinois, in April 1960. As Funny Cars began to sap match-race dates away from the Top Fuelers in the late 1960s, Karamesines in 1969 commissioned the construction of a Barracuda flopper from Kent Fuller and hired guys like Pat Foster, Norm Weekly, Ron O’Donnell, and Cliff Zink to drive that car and fulfill match race dates. They came from near and far to celebrate a legend and what he means to them, The story of Swamp Rat 17: Don Garlits' most misunderstood Top Fueler, The life and times of Denny Savage, a Funny Car driver's Funny Car driver, Passings of original NHRA DD Darwin Doll, car owner Dale Creasy Sr. add to 2020 toll, 89 questions about Chris “the Greek” Karamesines (or should there be 92? 1960. The Greek would qualify 13th, placing him against number 4 qualifier Doug Kalitta. “He was that smart. Imagine being John Wiebe, who said that as a kid he watched “the Greek” race in Oswego, and then not only got to race against him but be part of his entourage. This is Chris Karamesines' 204 mph run in "The Chizler". Mickey Mouse first appeared in the Disney short Steamboat Willie in 1928. Chris Karamesines is credited with a 8.87 ET at 204.54 MPH at Alton Raceway, Illinois on 24 April 1960. Chris Karamesines is an American drag racer and one of NHRA's early pioneers and nicknamed "The Golden Greek". Mike Storey was 5 when his father, John, opened the track and 18 when it closed. Explains Head, "Back in the 1950s and '60s, all you had to worry about the pill [jet] size; you put 10 pounds of compression in the thing and then you change the pill from an 80 to a 90 and you maybe run the blower up a couple [of percent] and maybe one [degree] in the mag and that was it. I called up my old pal Wiebe to ask about the fleet’s origins and its inner workings. While nitromethane is some tough stuff when it comes to fuel, the legend and mystique surrounding Hydrazine persists. The 1964 Winternationals. The plan for Chris Karamesines on Saturday was to shut down his Top Fuel dragster after 300 feet of his first and only qualifying run. After sitting out the 1981 and ’82 NHRA seasons, “the Greek” returned to the national event battlefield in 1983 when longtime friend Bob Stange of Strange Engineering began backing Karamesines. Super close. Not by a longshot. That would make the tires spin more and caused the car to get sideways. In 1964 racers couldn’t just assemble parts off the rack; ad … I was 43 he was 61, and I couldn’t keep up with him, “He’s an absolutely wonderful man and would do anything for the people he cares for, and he cares for a lot of people. This is dedicated to Alton Dragway and everything that happened there from 1958 till it closed in 1972. “A lot of the gas cars had blowers back then,” explained Garlits, “but West Coast guys like Jerry Cagle and Art Chrisman were experimenting with nitro, so there probably were some blown fuel cars in late ‘58 but, again, with just a small amount of fuel, not the large amounts that we ended up running.”. This perked Chris up quite a bit and he worked feverishly on the car to set it up for a seven-second run, which no one had done at Bakersfield at the time. I feel like it was meant to be, that I was meant to be a Top Fuel driver, not only for myself but also for my dad.”. I thought that was the ultimate. Don Garlits, Frank Cannon, and others who were among the first to break the double-century barrier did not do so until 1964. Purposefully so. No one saw clocks stop at this precise spot and times were not recorded on the tab sheet this high. 05. “Those Fosdick clocks which were known to not be exactly accurate sometimes,” said Garlits, “Most of the timers back East were the Fosdick timers, and you could get accurate times out of them, but you had to be really particular about the voltage that was going to them. We ran a lot at Lions, and we knew that its close location to the ocean would develop dew on the surface when we raced late at night. To me, it was one of drag racing’s most beautiful moments.”. While many saw it as a negative, others saw it as a positive besides the safety. Garlits’ retort was classic: “Is that what he said? He’s been good for the sport. It was a side-by-side twin that ran in match races only. Weekly, at the wheel of the crowd-favorite Weekly-Rivero-Fox-Holding "Frantic Four" dragster, won the first of the best-of-three on an 8.06 to 8.04 holeshot. He was 61. close to him (whose name I won’t divulge other than it rhymes with Randy) says she has seen the birth certificate with 1931 on it. I think the dirt-racing experiences helped me. We're talking rear wheels, wing struts, spill plates, injectors, valve covers, roll cage, steering wheel, hand brake, and windscreen all the way down to the nuts and bolts, and even the Dzus fasteners had been plated in pure gold. According to Frey, he was able to compete at 75 NHRA events and recorded a runner-up in Houston in 2000 behind Cory McClenathan. The change was brief however, as he was back in Top Fuel in 1976. 1960. He would capture the series greatest prize, winning the championship in 1959. In these days of billet Fuel Hemis, the engine in Swamp Rat VI is jaw-slackening to behold. “The Greek” and Baldwin ended up pitted net to one another at Texas Motorplex. With a little inside help, he was able to enlist with a doctored birthdate of 1928, and the number has haunted him since. I was there and, no offense to the great G.O., I don’t think he had many rooters. He would capture the … They qualified at 16 of 19 events and had early highlights like beating Kenny Bernstein in round one in Gainesville and again in Columbus, then headed north of the border for the annual Le Grandnational at Sanair Dragstrip outside of Montreal. 3.897 at the 2009 Auto Club NHRA Finals and 313.51 at the 2015 Gatornationals. He would acquire one of the new sleek 300 inch wheelbase dragsters, as well as the talents of crew chief and mechanic Lance Larson. He was fearless.”, Yes, sir. After all, when your drag racing career spans 67 years (61 of them in Top Fuel), there’s a lot of room for questions we'll try to answer. After all, when your drag racing career spans 67 years (61 of them in Top Fuel), there’s a lot of room for discussion. Dec 5, 2014 LAT PHOTOGRAPHIC. Chris Karamesines, who has b een racing top fuel dragsters for 57 years, looks likely to be in the National Hot Rod Assn. He had a lotta friends on the force. “I first met him in the winter of 1979 in Bradenton, Fla., when I had my alcohol car. People have offered everything from tune-up advice to turnkey combinations, trying to get Karamesines his first NHRA win before time expired. I’ll touch on that more later. Chris is like a second father to me. It was the first time that Karamesines would advance to the finals in a NHRA event. People think I pick on ‘the Greek,’ but he’s my hero, too. “He could still handle the car. So, a dozen to so years ago, somewhere around 2006-07, when NHRA mandated the use of the HANS (Head and Neck Restraint System) Device, "the Greek" wanted nothing to do with them. He came up for another single, and this time he went 7.99 and the stands just came unglued. Lance had helped put my dad’s car together a few years earlier and told her to go over to my dad’s trailer, and that’s how they met. I can still picture him doing a burnout, the smoke billowing out in front of the engine and you could see his hands in there driving the thing. He would return for the Route 66 Nationals in Chicago, his home race. Karamesines would break his own record in 2018 at Brainerd Raceway, running a 305 mile per hour pass at 86 years old. Karamesines would soon have a bigger problem to face, bladder cancer. Lucas agreed to fully sponsor Karamesines dragster for as long as he would choose to race. Since then, Karamesines has sat out two more seasons (2006 and 2008) and run schedules varying from one race (2007) to 17 (2002) but has run from 8-13 races a year over the last decade. "You'd slide into the corners, spinning the tires, and develop an entirely different set of reflexes. The first meeting of the couple came at the 1990 fall Dallas event. You’d pay $6 or $7 a night for a hotel, 28 cents a gallon for gas, and 35 cents for a hamburger, If you won a race, you could make $500-700, and in California that number could go as high as $1,500. It’s the first call that I make that morning.”. In 1966, Karamesines would split time between NHRA and AHRA, winning at Texas in the latter. “He's probably you know one of the most magnetic people I think I've ever been around. “Decades ago, when we raced against each other, it didn't make any difference how old he was — we all just knew he was a bit older than us (Garlits turns 89 in January) — but it’s a phenomenon is what it is, that he could actually still do it at his age,” said Garlits. “When we traveled together, I always brought up the rear because I was the only  guy who had a kit to fix tubeless tires without taking them off, so if they had a flat tire they’d pull over and I’d help them.”. For the record, Karamesines was still “only” 88 (or 91 … lol) when he made what appears to be his final pass in a 300-plus-mph Top Fueler in round one of the Dodge NHRA Finals in Las Vegas, losing to Leah Pruett, who was born nearly 60 years after Karamesines. Funny Car star and student of the sport Jack Beckman would have none of it. He debuted and destroyed the car at the 1975 Gatornationals after a rear wing failure sent the car plunging into the left-lane guardrail. “I set the first 200-mph NHRA national record but, as far as the first 200 speed, that belongs to ‘the Greek,’ ” he told me. Karamesines, meanwhile, drove through a monster midtrack wheelstand of his own and made both points moot when he definitely crossed the centerline (see photo above), and Weekly coasted to the win with a 15.79 at just 51 mph. Chris was a member of the Schlitzers (Schlitz was a popular Midwestern beer brand brewed in nearby Milwaukee) Car Club from South Chicago. On June 15, 2014 at Bristol, Karamesines, the #16 qualifier knocked out #1 qualifier Brittany Force in the first round and then lost to Antron Brown in the second round. When Jim Tice started the Grand American Series, he was savvy enough to lock down top draws like Garlits and “the Greek” and even if the events weren’t at tracks as posh or receive as much television or press exposure as NHA’s national events, they drew scores of crowds. For the record, Force is “only” 71 (turns 72 on May 4). It will always be a special time for me.”. During another event, Karamesines volunteer crew was to blame, as the parachute packs had not been properly secured, causing the chutes to deploy on launch.

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